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Johannes English
M, #23010, Deceased, b. about 1815, d. 17 August 1867
- Consanguinity: 2nd great-grandfather of AJS
Family
Family: Brigida Troy (b. about 1823, d. 25 September 1871)
- Maurice English
- Michael English+ (b. 1845, d. 19 August 1917)
- Johannes ("John English") English+ (b. about April 1850, d. 1926)
- Patrick English+ (b. about 1857, d. 29 April 1939)
Main Events
- Birth: Johannes English was born about 1815 in Co Waterford, Ireland.
- Marriage: Johannes English and Brigida Troy were married before 1845 in St. Mary's, Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland, I am using the baptism of son Johannes on 23 February 1850 for evidence of parentage ... I believe it reads "Johannes ... son of Johannes English and Brigida Troy". This is my interpretation of the handwriting - if you think it may be different, please let me know.
I can find no evidence of a marriage ceremony here.
- His son Michael English was born in 1845 in County Waterford, Ireland.
- His son Johannes ("John English") English was born about April 1850 in Waterford, Ireland.
- His son Patrick English was born about 1857.
- Death: Johannes English died on 17 August 1867 at some kind of institution - maybe a hospital, jail or some other place., in Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland, First name(s) John
Last name English
Deceased name English, John
Event type Deaths
Sex Male
Birth year 1815
Age 52
Marital status Married
Occupation Labourer
Year 1867
Ailment Decease of heart
Treatment duration Several months
Death date 17 Aug 1867
Death place Dungarvan
Informant Shine, Matthew, J.
Informant's address Dungarvan
Informant notes Chief resident officer
Registration date 02 Sep 1867
Registrar Kenny, Anthony
Registrar's district Dungarvan
Superintendent registrar's district Dungarvan
Place Waterford
County Waterford
Country Ireland
Archive Waterford County Archives
Record set Waterford Registers & Records
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Directories & Almanacs
Collections from Ireland. - His wife Brigida Troy died on 25 September 1871.
Census
| Note | Johannes English Id #23,010 (Principal) was at home on Census night; NB I note that may researchers have stated that the parents of this "John" are Patrick English and Mary Heron. I have found no evidence for this speculation. In fact, I think a more likely possibility for the birth and baptism of Johannes English who married Bridget Troy is this :- 1812 • Baptism Date: • 30 Jan 1812 Baptism Place: • St Mary's, Clonmel, Waterford and Tipperary, Ireland Parish Variants: • St. Mary's, Clonmel Diocese: • Waterford and Lismore Father: • Georges English Mother: • Margarita Smith Further, convention might suggest that some parents might name the first son after their own father - in this case, one might expect the first sone to be named "Michael". However, again this is speculation - and until I have some evidence, I am not prepared to accept that Patrick English & Mary Heron are the parents of Johannes English (c. 1815-1867). Original Documents, Source and Citations here |
- Last Edited: 3 December 2022 15:51:01
Biography
Brigida Troy
F, #23011, Deceased, b. about 1823, d. 25 September 1871
- Consanguinity: 2nd great-grandmother of AJS
Family
Family: Johannes English (b. about 1815, d. 17 August 1867)
- Maurice English
- Michael English+ (b. 1845, d. 19 August 1917)
- Johannes ("John English") English+ (b. about April 1850, d. 1926)
- Patrick English+ (b. about 1857, d. 29 April 1939)
Main Events
- Name: Brigida Troy was also known as Brigida English.
- Birth: She was born about 1823.
- Marriage: Brigida Troy and Johannes English were married before 1845 in St. Mary's, Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland, I am using the baptism of son Johannes on 23 February 1850 for evidence of parentage ... I believe it reads "Johannes ... son of Johannes English and Brigida Troy". This is my interpretation of the handwriting - if you think it may be different, please let me know.
I can find no evidence of a marriage ceremony here. - Her son Michael English was born in 1845 in County Waterford, Ireland.
- Her son Johannes ("John English") English was born about April 1850 in Waterford, Ireland.
- Her son Patrick English was born about 1857.
- Her husband Johannes English died on 17 August 1867 in Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland.
- Death: She died on 25 September 1871 Her son Michael was present at the death.
- Last Edited: 3 December 2022 10:10:49