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Samuel Dicken

M, #76, Deceased, b. about 1811

Family

Family: Elizabeth Snelson (b. 27 February 1825, d. 25 August 1890)

Main Events

  • Death: Samuel Dicken died in Handbridge.
  • Birth: He was born about 1811.
  • Marriage: Samuel Dicken and Elizabeth Snelson were married in June 1850 in West Derby.
  • Occupation: He was a journeyman joiner in Chester in 1851.

Census

Census 1851Samuel Dicken Id #76 (Head of Household) was at home on Census night 31 March 1851.

Also in the household that night were Elizabeth Snelson (Wife)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #10

Original Documents, Source and Citations here1,2
  • Last Edited: 6 July 2021 12:41:20

Citations

  1. [S75] Census 1851 ('Dicken')
    Handbridge
    Samuel Dicken Joiner/Journeyman aged 40 Elizabeth Dicken Wife aged 26

    .......They were living next door to Samuel Snelson and Margaret Coventry and may be connected with grave 1860 at Overleigh.
  2. [S5905] Census 1851 Cheshire Samuel Dicken a. 40, Head: Samuel Dicken
    Age: 40
    County: Cheshire

Biography

Jonathan Gill

M, #80, Deceased, b. about 1779, d. 23 July 1850

Family

Family: Hannah Snelson (b. 1781, d. 1 October 1847)

Main Events

  • Birth: Jonathan Gill was born about 1779.
  • Witness: He and Hannah Snelson witnessed the marriage of William Snelson and Elizabeth Fairbrother on 29 December 1808 in St. John the Baptist, Chester.1
  • Marriage: Jonathan Gill and Hannah Snelson were married on 23 July 1809 in St. Peter's, Liverpool.
  • Occupation: He was a bricklayer (in the probate of his will) in Chester in 1850.
  • Will: He left a will on 10 May 1850Here is a transcript extract of the the Will of Jonathan GILL of Handbridge, Bricklayer, 1850 ( WS 1850 )

    'my nephew William SNELSON of Handbridge Cowkeeper'
    'Harriet HEATH daughter of my late brother John GILL'
    'Mary SOUTHERN of Manchester Widow daughter of my late
    sister Mary GILL'
    'Jonathan COTGREAVE son of Robert COTGREAVE and Mary his
    late wife'
    'Thomas PEMBERTON junior of Handbridge aforesaid bricklayer'
    'John SNELSON of Handbridge Moulder nephew of my late wife
    and son of William and Elizabeth SNELSON of Eccleston
    Lane'
    'William and Elizabeth SNELSON son and daughter of the said
    John SNELSON'
    'Thomas SNELSON watchmaker of Liverpool'
    'Samuel SNELSON cabinet maker Handbridge'
    '( to William son of the said Samuel SNELSON
    .... Margaret SNELSON daughter of the said Samuel
    SNELSON ....John SNELSON ....Thomas SNELSON......
    Samuel SNELSON junior.....also sons of the said Samuel
    SNELSON )'
    'Elizabeth WALKER wife of William WALKER and sister to the
    said Thomas PEMBERTON junior'
    'my niece Hannah JONES wife of Edward JONES of Bretton'
    'Edward SNELSON of Handbridge aforesaid shoemaker'
    'my niece Elizabeth SNELSON'

    Proviso that if any of the legatees are minors at testators
    decease, legacies to be held in the bank till they are of
    age.

    Executors : 'Thomas JARVIS senior of Wrexham Road gardener
    and the said Edward SNELSON shoemaker of Handbridge.



    Dated 10 May 1850
    Proved 5 Sep 1850
    Testator died 23 Jul 1850.

    NOTE Jonathan GILL is husband of Hannah SNELSON [100]. This Hannah Snelson [100] has a brother William Snelson [1]. This William Snelson has a daughter Hannah Snelson [7]. Confusing isn't it. This why in his will, Jonathan Gill describes Hannah Jones as his niece - actually, young Hannah [7] is his wife's niece rather than his, but no matter, that is the relationship.
  • Death: He died on 23 July 1850 in a place close to home, Eccleston.2
  • Burial: Jonathan's remains were buried on 25 July 1850 in the parish church graveyard, Eccleston, St. Mary the Virgin.
  • Deceased: He witnessed the probate of the estate of Edward Snelson on 5 September 1850.

Census

Census 1841Jonathan Gill Id #80 (Household head) was at home on Census night 6 June 1841 at Handbridge, Chester; Household 1
Jonathan Gill 60
Hannah ditto 60
Marta Parsonage 20
.... 1 house away
Samuel Snelson 25 Labourer
Margaret ditto 25
William ditto 3
Margaret ditto 1
... 3 houses away
John Snelson 30 Founder Occupation
Margaret ditto 35
William ditto 6
Elizabeth Snelson 3
... 2 houses away
James Gill 65
Elizabeth ditto 60
Harriet ditto 3.

Also in the household that night were Hannah Snelson (Wife)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #100

Original Documents, Source and Citations here3
  • Last Edited: 6 July 2021 12:41:23

Citations

  1. [S58] Chester St. John Marriages 1808 p51/3/2, R3-0850
  2. [S39] Eccleston Monument Inscriptions (William 3, R3-811
  3. [S42] Census 1841 Chester Handbridge Samuel Snelson a 25, Memo: Annotation: Census 1841 Chester
    Handbridge H.O. 107/129
    /22 t.8v. Jonathan GILL 60 Y
    Hannah GILL 60 Y
    Martha PARSONAGE 20 N

Biography

Reginald Arthur Guckenheim

M, #81, Deceased, b. 8 July 1905, d. 1980
  • Consanguinity: Partner of Winifred Margaret Pierce (1st cousin 1 time removed of Adrian John Snelson)

Family

Family: Winifred Margaret Pierce (b. 2 July 1904, d. 1981)

Main Events

  • Occupation: Reginald Arthur Guckenheim was a School Attendance Officer.
  • Birth: He was born on 8 July 1905.
  • Marriage: Reginald Arthur Guckenheim and Winifred Margaret Pierce were married in 1924 in Chester.
  • Death: He died in 1980, at age ~75, in Wirral, Cheshire.

Census

Census 1939Reginald Arthur Guckenheim Id #81 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1939 at Chester

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
  • Last Edited: 7 October 2020 17:37:51

Biography

Charles Ernest Hartley

M, #82, Deceased, b. about 1879

Family

Family: Evelyn Beatrice Roby (b. 30 July 1879)

Main Events

  • Baptism: Charles Ernest Hartley was baptised on 16 April 1876 in Tonge, Nr Middleton, Lancashire.
  • Birth: He was born about 1879 in Tonge, Oldham, Lancashire.
  • Marriage: Charles Ernest Hartley and Evelyn Beatrice Roby were married on 13 November 1907 in Christ Church, Kensington, Liverpool, NB The banns say his father was actually Benjamin Hartley, a commercial traveller. Charles says he is working as a clerk.
  • Occupation: He was shipping agent (Elder Dempster) between 1920 and 1920.
  • Fellow Passenger: He; between 1922 and 1930; Evelyn Beatrice Roby; Charles and Evelyn made at least 4 separate voyages to West Africa and back to Liverpool between 1922 and 1930.
  • Travel: He was incoming passenger from West Coast Africa from Karachi on "RMS Appam" in 1924.
  • Residence: He resided at 29 Millersdale Road, Mossley Hill, Liverpool, in 1945.

Census

Note Charles Ernest Hartley Id #82 (Principal) was at home on Census night; Alice Spouge in Helensburgh, Scotland is also researching Charles Ernest Hartley.

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
  • Last Edited: 29 October 2022 16:24:00

Biography

Stanley Arthur Webb (Chadwin)

M, #87, Deceased, b. 8 August 1913, d. 23 September 1989

Person Exhibits

Stan Webb 1913-1989
  • Consanguinity: Partner of Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Quinn (1st cousin 1 time removed of Adrian John Snelson)

Family

Family: Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Quinn (b. 3 August 1912, d. 27 August 1998)

Main Events

  • Christening: Stanley Arthur Webb (Chadwin) was christened Kenneth Arthur Chadwin.
  • Namechange: The name was changed by hand on the birth certificate to Stanley Arthur Webb, son of Sydney Webb, a political agent Namechange.
  • Birth: He was born on 8 August 1913.
  • Marriage: Stanley Arthur Webb (Chadwin) and Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Quinn were married about 1945 in an unknown place.
  • Occupation: He was a Director of the Royal Liver Insurance Company in Pier Head, Liverpool, about 1961.
  • Death: He died on 23 September 1989, at age 76, in Warrington.

Census

Note Stanley Arthur Webb (Chadwin) Id #87 (Principal) was at home on Census night; The Saga of Stanley Arthur Webb ... this is a note from Margaret Webb

Mary Jane was my great-grandmother.
Emily was my grandmother.
Stanley was my father.

1. Emily Chadwin was going out with Arthur Willmore.
2. Emily went away in service & when she came back Arthur had married her widowed mother Mary Jane in 1901. Arthur was 24 & Mary Jane 42.
3. Emily had an illegitimate daughter in 1911 – registered in the name of Irene Chadwin.
4. Emily had an illegitimate son in 1913 – registered in the name of Stanley Arthur Chadwin but christened Kenneth Arthur Chadwin.
5. Some time later both birth certificates were altered manually, obviously & illegally to Irene Willmore & Stanley Arthur Webb.
6. Emily became known as Mrs Webb although she never married.
7. Irene got married & her marriage certificate states that she was the daughter of Arthur Willmore (although he was actually married to her grandmother).
8. Stanley got married & his marriage certificate states that he was the son of Sydney Webb, political agent.
9. When Emily died her death certificate states that she was the widow of Sydney Webb, political agent. She never married anybody.
10. Irene always called Emily & Arthur - Aunty & Uncle. I have a postcard written to her when she was aged 1 from them – signed Aunty & Uncle.
11. Emily & Arthur shared the same house until their deaths.

I only learnt this after my dad had died as he was ashamed of being illegitimate. Apparently, he had always dreaded having to get a duplicate birth certificate for any reason as it would have shown him to have a different surname. I do not know if Sydney Webb existed. Having 2 illegitimate children around that time must have been bad enough for Emily but to alter birth certificates illegally & give the children different surnames makes it worse.


Original Documents, Source and Citations here1
  • Last Edited: 6 July 2021 12:41:19

Citations

  1. [S5983] Margaret Howlett (Webb), Saga of Stanley Arthur Webb

Biography

Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Quinn

F, #88, Deceased, b. 3 August 1912, d. 27 August 1998

Person Exhibits

Miriam Gwendoline Quinn 1912-1998

Parents

Family

Family: Stanley Arthur Webb (Chadwin) (b. 8 August 1913, d. 23 September 1989)

Main Events

  • Name: Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Quinn was also known as Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Webb.
  • Anecdote: She; During the war, she was employed in MI5. Gwen writes that her mother always told her that there was a connection with the Rocksavages. This ties in with my Father's own stories that I never really believed, but there must be something to it after all. There was a decanter " in Aunty Annie's house with the Rocksavage's initials on it; Aunty Mag dropped it to all the Pierces' annoyance" . [:CR:]
  • Address: , Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen")'s address was in Mrs. Gwen Webb, 140 Wargrave Road, Newton-le-Willows, Merseyside, England, 0011-44-1925-22-4018.
  • Birth: She was born on 3 August 1912 in Attleborough, Warwickshire.
  • Marriage: Miriam Gwendoline ("Gwen") Quinn and Stanley Arthur Webb (Chadwin) were married about 1945 in an unknown place.
  • Residence: She resided in 140 Wargrave Road, Newton le Willows, Cheshire, in 1990.1
  • Death: She died on 27 August 1998, at age 86, in Warrington Hospital, Warrington.
  • Last Edited: 6 July 2021 12:41:21

Citations

  1. [S542] Letter from Gwen Webb ( nee Quinn )

Biography

Private

F, #89, Living

Parents

Families

Family 1: Private

Family 2: Private

  • Last Edited: 1 December 2022 23:02:33

Margaret Snelson

F, #92, Deceased, b. 1813

Parents

Main Events

  • Birth: Margaret Snelson was born in 1813.
  • Last Edited: 6 July 2021 12:41:22

Biography

Private

M, #93, Living

Parents

Family

  • Last Edited: 1 December 2022 23:02:33

Private

F, #94, Living

Parents

Family

  • Last Edited: 1 December 2022 23:02:33

Hannah Snelson

F, #100, Deceased, b. 1781, d. 1 October 1847

Parents

Family

Family: Jonathan Gill (b. about 1779, d. 23 July 1850)

Main Events

  • Name: Hannah Snelson was also known as Hannah Gill.
  • Birth: She was born in 1781 in Dodleston.
  • Christening: Hannah was christened in July 1781 in the local Parish Church of England, Dodleston.1
  • Witness: She and Jonathan Gill witnessed the marriage of William Snelson and Elizabeth Fairbrother on 29 December 1808 in St. John the Baptist, Chester.2
  • Marriage: Hannah Snelson and Jonathan Gill were married on 23 July 1809 in St. Peter's, Liverpool.
  • Death: She died on 1 October 1847, at age ~66.3
  • Burial: She was buried on 3 October 1847 in Eccleston St. Mary the Virgin.

Census

Census 1841Hannah Snelson Id #100 (Wife) was at home on Census night 6 June 1841 at Handbridge, Chester; Household 1
Jonathan Gill 60
Hannah ditto 60
Marta Parsonage 20
.... 1 house away
Samuel Snelson 25 Labourer
Margaret ditto 25
William ditto 3
Margaret ditto 1
... 3 houses away
John Snelson 30 Founder Occupation
Margaret ditto 35
William ditto 6
Elizabeth Snelson 3
... 2 houses away
James Gill 65
Elizabeth ditto 60
Harriet ditto 3.

Also in the household that night were Jonathan Gill (Household head)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #80

Original Documents, Source and Citations here4
  • Last Edited: 6 July 2021 12:41:25

Citations

  1. [S48] Dodleston Baptisms, R3-829
  2. [S58] Chester St. John Marriages 1808 p51/3/2, R3-0850
  3. [S39] Eccleston Monument Inscriptions (William 3, R3-811
  4. [S42] Census 1841 Chester Handbridge Samuel Snelson a 25, Memo: Annotation: Census 1841 Chester
    Handbridge H.O. 107/129
    /22 t.8v. Jonathan GILL 60 Y
    Hannah GILL 60 Y
    Martha PARSONAGE 20 N

Biography