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John Benyon1

M, #51, Deceased, b. about May 1851, d. October 1909
  • Consanguinity: 2nd great-uncle of Private

Parents

Family

Family: Alice Dryland (b. 1856)

Main Events

  • Birth: John Benyon was born about May 1851 in Eccleston (. He and William (#818) were twins.)
  • Christening: He was christened on 6 May 1851 in the local Parish Church of England, Eccleston.2
  • Witness: He witnessed the wedding of Samuel Snelson and Mary Benyon on 4 July 1872 in St. Mary the Virgin, Eccleston.3
  • Marriage:

    John Benyon married Alice Dryland in 1874.
  • His daughter Cecilia Alice Benyon was born in 1878.
  • His son John Lewis Benyon was born on 31 March 1879 in Handbridge, Chester, England.
  • His son Stephen Henry Benyon was born on 22 April 1881.
  • His mother Ann(E) Davies died on 23 January 1885.
  • His father Thomas Bennion died on 3 April 1886 in Eccleston, Cheshire, England.
  • His son Frank Benyon was born about 1894.
  • Death: John Benyon died in October 1909.

Census

Census 18611861John Benyon Id #51 (son) was at home on Census night 1861 at Eccleston; Principal Role

Principal Role.

Also in the household that night were Thomas Bennion (Head of Household), Ann(E) Davies (wife), Samuel Benyon (son), Thomas Benyon (son), Stephen Benyon (son), Mary Benyon (daughter), William Benyon (son), and Richard Benyon (son)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #44, 36, 45, 46, 48, 19, 818, and 52

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18611861John Benyon Id #51 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1861 at Eccleston; Witness Role: son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18711871John Benyon Id #51 (son) was at home on Census night 1871 at the village, Eccleston; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household.

Also in the household that night were Thomas Bennion (Head of Household), Ann(E) Davies (wife), Stephen Benyon (son), Grace Roberts (daughter-in-law), William Benyon (son), and Esther Anne Benyon (grand daughter)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #44, 36, 48, 42, 818, and 40

Original Documents, Source and Citations here4
Census 18711871John Benyon Id #51 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1871 at the village, Eccleston; Witness Role: Son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here4
  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Citations

  1. [S975] U.K. Marriage Witness Index, Source Element: R3-8588
  2. [S43] Eccleston Baptisms, Benyon
  3. [S362] Marriage Certificate of Samuel Snelson & Mary Benyon 1872
  4. [S5869] Census 1871 Cheshire Thomas Benyon a. 58, Head: Thomas Benyon
    Age: 58
    County: Cheshire

Biography

Richard Benyon1

M, #52, Deceased, b. about June 1853, d. 16 February 1865
  • Consanguinity: 2nd great-uncle of Private

Parents

Main Events

  • Birth: Richard Benyon was born about June 1853 in Eccleston.
  • Christening: He was christened on 26 June 1853 in the local Parish Church of England, Eccleston.2
  • Death: He died of a drowning accident on 16 February 1865 (. Richard was killed tragically when he was only 11 years old in a drowning accident in the Winter of 1865.).
  • His mother Ann(E) Davies died on 23 January 1885.
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried in February 1885 in the parish church graveyard, Eccleston, St. Mary the Virgin.
    .
  • His father Thomas Bennion died on 3 April 1886 in Eccleston, Cheshire, England.

Census

Census 18611861Richard Benyon Id #52 (son) was at home on Census night 1861 at Eccleston; Principal Role

Principal Role.

Also in the household that night were Thomas Bennion (Head of Household), Ann(E) Davies (wife), Samuel Benyon (son), Thomas Benyon (son), Stephen Benyon (son), Mary Benyon (daughter), William Benyon (son), and John Benyon (son)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #44, 36, 45, 46, 48, 19, 818, and 51

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18611861Richard Benyon Id #52 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1861 at Eccleston; Witness Role: son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Citations

  1. [S77] Eccleston Grave ('George Benyon'), R3-892
  2. [S43] Eccleston Baptisms, Benyon

Biography

Harold Benyon

M, #53, Deceased, b. November 1881, d. April 1882
  • Consanguinity: 1st cousin 2 times removed of Private

Parents

Main Events

  • Birth: Harold Benyon was born in November 1881.
  • Death: He died in April 1882.
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried in April 1882 in the parish church graveyard, Eccleston, St. Mary the Virgin.
    .
  • His father Stephen Benyon died on 13 December 1899.
  • His mother Grace Roberts died on 29 March 1926.
  • Last Edited: 3 December 2022 10:10:49

Biography

William Thomas Benyon

M, #56, Deceased, b. before 16 September 1871
  • Consanguinity: 1st cousin 2 times removed of Private

Parents

Family

Family: Mary Jane Youd (b. about 1875)

Main Events

  • Birth: William Thomas Benyon was born before 16 September 1871 in Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales.
  • Christening: He was christened on 16 September 1873 in Hawarden, Flintshire.
  • Marriage:

    William Thomas Benyon married Mary Jane Youd in 1899.
  • Occupation: In 1911 William Thomas Benyon was a boilermaker. Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company (L.Y.R.Co.)

Census

Census 19111911William Thomas Benyon Id #56 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at West Horwich Lane, Lancashire

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  • Last Edited: 4 December 2022 05:32:23

Biography

John Coventry

M, #57, Deceased, b. about 1785, d. before 13 November 1828
  • Consanguinity: 3rd great-grandfather of Private

Family

Family: Margaret Dodd (b. 1 January 1786)

Main Events

  • Birth: John Coventry was born about 1785.
  • Marriage:

    John Coventry married Margaret Dodd on 29 March 1810 in St Mary, Chester. (. by Banns.)1
  • Occupation: About 1812 John Coventry was a tailor.
  • His son John Coventry was born on 16 February 1812.
  • His daughter Margaret Coventry was born about 1813 in Chester, England.
  • His daughter Elizabeth Coventry was born on 23 February 1823 in Chester, Cheshire, England.
  • His daughter Anne Coventry was born about 1827.
  • Death: John Coventry died before 13 November 1828 in Chester, England.2,3
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried on 13 November 1828 in St Oswald, Cheshire.
    .
  • Last Edited: 10 December 2022 14:06:01

Citations

  1. [S5955] Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 John Coventry marriage Margaret Dodd 1810, Parish: St Mary, Chester
  2. [S191] Chester St. Mary Baptisms, Memo: Annotation: Chester St. Mary Baptisms 1820-1831

    mf 98/2 & 3

    p32 no 249
    23 Jan 1822 Edward son William & Elizabeth Snelson farmer, Handbridge * b. 1 Jan 1822

    p32 no 250
    23 Jan 1822 Betty dau James & Mary Snelson, baker, Castle Street * b. 6 Jun 1821



    p49 no 389
    9 Jan 1823 Margaret dau Richard & Margaret Snelson innkeeper, Bridge Street * b. 2 Dec 1822

    p53 no 417
    14 Mar 1823 Elizabeth dau John & Margret Coventry, tailor, Handbridge * b. 23 Feb 1823

    p81 no 645
    27 Feb 1825 Elizabeth dau William & Elizabeth Snelson, farmer, Handbridge

    p94 no 751
    13 Oct 1825 Mary dau John & Jane Snelson, wheelwright, Potter's Court

    p96 no 767
    10 Nov 1825 Joseph son Richard & Margaret Snelson, innkeeper, Bridge Street

    p125 no 997 1 Jul 1827 Anne dau of John and Margaret Coventry, tailor, Handbridge v
  3. [S5954]

Biography

John Coventry

M, #59, Deceased, b. 16 February 1812
  • Consanguinity: 3rd great-uncle of Private

Parents

Main Events

  • Birth: John Coventry was born on 16 February 1812.
  • Christening: He was christened on 12 April 1812 in St. Hillary, Wallasey.
  • His father John Coventry died before 13 November 1828 in Chester, England.
  • Biography: . My Aunt Molly sleuthed out this history, and it is recorded in her letter to me in 1971.
  • Last Edited: 3 December 2022 10:10:49

Biography

Mary Coventry

F, #61, Deceased, b. about March 1841
  • Consanguinity: 1st cousin 3 times removed of Private

Parents

Main Events

  • Birth: Mary Coventry was born about March 1841 in Chester.
  • Baptism: She was christened on 14 April 1841 in St Mary. Only the mother's name Elizabeth Coventry is given - and the address is "Handbridge".

Census

Census 18416 June 1841Mary Coventry Id #61 (Principal) was at home on Census night 6 June 1841 at House of Industry, Holy and Undivided Trinity, Chester; She may have been abandoned or an orphan. The Census in 1841 was taken on 6th June 1841 at The Chester Workhouse and states she was 2 months old, suggesting that she was probably born circa March 1841. It may also be the reason why she appears in 1851 in the home of her aunt Margaret Coventry [11] and husband, Samuel Snelson.

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 185130 March 1851Mary Coventry Id #61 (niece) was at home on Census night 30 March 1851 at Handbridge, Chester; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

Principal Role.

Also in the household that night were Samuel Snelson (Head of Household), Margaret Coventry (wife), William Snelson (son), John Snelson (son), Thomas Snelson (son), Samuel Snelson (son), and Margaret Snelson (daughter)

For search purposes, their Id numbers are respectively as follows :- Id #6, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17, and 14

Original Documents, Source and Citations here1
Census 185130 March 1851Mary Coventry Id #61 (Principal) was at home on Census night 30 March 1851 at Handbridge, Chester; Witness Role: niece

Original Documents, Source and Citations here1
  • Last Edited: 3 December 2022 20:45:04

Citations

  1. [S71] Census 1851 Cheshire Samuel Snelson a. 37, Memo: Annotation: Census 1851 St. Mary on-the-Hill
    Handbridge

    Samuel Snelson Cabinet Maker/Journeyman 37

    Margaret Snelson Wife 38

    William Snelson son 13

    John Snelson son 8

    Thomas Snelson son 6

    Samuel Snelson son 1

    Mary Coventry Niece 10

    Margaret Snelson Daughter 10


    All born in Chester City

Biography

Margaret Dodd

F, #62, Deceased, b. 1 January 1786
  • Consanguinity: 3rd great-grandmother of Private

Parents

Family

Family: John Coventry (b. about 1785, d. before 13 November 1828)

Main Events

  • Name: Margaret Dodd was also known as Margaret Coventry.
  • Birth: She was born on 1 January 1786 in St Oswald, Chester, England.1
  • Her mother Elizabeth ? died about 1808.
  • Marriage:

    Margaret Dodd married John Coventry on 29 March 1810 in St Mary, Chester. (. by Banns.)2
  • Her son John Coventry was born on 16 February 1812.
  • Her daughter Margaret Coventry was born about 1813 in Chester, England.
  • Her daughter Elizabeth Coventry was born on 23 February 1823 in Chester, Cheshire, England.
  • Her daughter Anne Coventry was born about 1827.
  • Her husband John Coventry died before 13 November 1828 in Chester, England.
  • Buried: Following her death, her remains were buried on 2 July 1830 in St Oswald's, Chester.
    .
  • Her father Ralph Dodd died about 1841.
  • Last Edited: 17 May 2023 21:17:58

Citations

  1. [S5956] Chester Baptisms Margaret Dodd 1786, Parish: St Oswald, Chester
  2. [S5955] Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 John Coventry marriage Margaret Dodd 1810, Parish: St Mary, Chester

Biography

Johannes ("John English") English

M, #63, Deceased, b. about April 1850, d. 1926
  • Consanguinity: Great-grandfather of Private

Parents

Family

Family: Brigida ("Bridget Power") Power (b. 1852, d. about May 1905)

Main Events

  • Name: Johannes ("John English") English was also known as John English.
  • Birth: He was born about April 1850 in Waterford, Ireland, (. He reports that he was 50 years old in 1901 Census.)
  • Baptism: He was christened on 23 April 1850 in Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland. He was baptised on 23 April 1850 in Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland. Parents were Joannes English & Brigid Troy. Witnesses looks like Patritius Connolly and Honora Dalton. Link.
  • His father Johannes English died on 17 August 1867 in Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland.
  • Marriage:

    Johannes ("John English") English married Brigida ("Bridget Power") Power on 29 January 1871 Waterford & Lismore Parish, Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland, in St. Mary's, Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland. The best man was Michael English. (. Wedding took place in a Roman Catholic Chapel and RC Parish - I see from the register that the witnesses were Michael English and XXXX (maybe Jane) Power ( I cannot decipher the christian name, might also be Lucilla, Linda or Loretta), but she will probably be the Head Bridesmaid and Michael the Best Man, I presume.

    There is the mention of "Strand Street" ... maybe that is where Johannes lived, I don't know ... buy Angela advises that:-

    "John is stated as living at Strand st, Dungarvan which is just around the corner from St Mary's. John's brother (My gggrandfather) Patrick lived on O'Connell st , Dungarvan. Michael lived in Dungarvan for a while but then settled in Waterford City. Nearly all his children moved to England at various stages. ".)1
  • His mother Brigida Troy died on 25 September 1871.
  • His daughter Maria Brigida English was born on 25 November 1871 in Dungarvan, Waterford & Lismore, Ireland.
  • His daughter Frances English was born on 30 January 1875 in 22 Barmouth Street, St. Martin, Liverpool, England.
  • Occupation: About 1876 Johannes ("John English") English was a ship's cook, baker in the Merchant Navy and at sea.
  • His daughter Elizabeth English was born on 11 March 1877 in Liverpool, England.
  • Occupation: In 1878 Johannes ("John English") English was a Ship's Baker in SS 'Wisconsin', Guion Line. The Liverpool and Great Western Steamship Company, known commonly as the Guion Line, was a British passenger service that operated the Liverpool-Queenstown-New York route from 1866 to 1894.[1] While incorporated in Great Britain, 52% of the company's capital was from the American firm, Williams and Guion of New York.
  • His son John Edward English was born in 1879 in Walton, Liverpool, England.
  • His daughter Dora English was born on 7 October 1882.
  • His daughter Jenny English was born on 19 October 1888.
  • Occupation: On 23 September 1890 Johannes ("John English") English was a Ship's Baker. deserted the vessel "Lake Ontario" maybe in Montreal.
  • His wife Brigida ("Bridget Power") Power died about May 1905 in Liverpool, England.
  • Death: He died in 1926 in Liverpool, England, (at age 75y).
  • Travel: He experienced Travel in 1926.
  • Residence: In April 1926 Johannes ("John English") English lived at 42 Belmont Road in Liverpool.
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried on 9 April 1926 in Public Grave SV 229 in Ford Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
    .

Census

Census 18811881Johannes ("John English") English Id #63 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1881 at 3 Crouch Street, St. Domingo Grove, Everton; His wife Brigida is shown as a ship baker's wife with a notation "husband at sea".

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Note 18901890Johannes ("John English") English Id #63 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1890 at Liverpool to Canada; The SS Lake Ontario, a passenger steamer, was built in 1887 in Sunderland by James Laing & Co, 4502 tons, dedicated mainly to the Liverpool-Montreal run.

The Lake Ontario was built to the order of the Canada Shipping Company, Ltd., the owners of the Beaver Line. She differed from the earlier vessels of this company in that she was constructed of steel and was built away from Clydeside. Her principal dimensions were :-392 ft. length overall 43 ft. 4 in. beam ; 32 ft. 8½ in. depth ; 4,520 tons gross about 8,300 tons displacement ; length, between perpendiculars, 374 ft. 5 in. breadth, extreme, 43 ft. 6 in. ; depth moulded, 32.7 ft. She had water ballast. Her triple-expansion engines were constructed by Messrs. George Clark, of Sunderland, and had cylinder dimensions of 31 in., 51 in., and 83 in., with a stroke of 54 in., her boilers working at a pressure of 150 lb. per square inch. The Lake Ontario had the traditional Beaver Line clipper stem, and in view of the possibility of the vessel sailing among floating ice, the plating of the bows was doubled and strengthened with extra keelsons and stringers.

The crew was employed on the journey from Liverpool to Quebec and Montreal and if required any other ports between 72 degrees north and 65 degrees south, trading to and from as may be required until the ship returned to a final port of discharge in the United Kingdom for any period not exceeding 6 months.

John English as the ship's Baker was paid 7 pounds a month, able bodied seaman 4 pounds, chief engineer 20 pounds, 1st Officer 12 pounds, steward 3 pounds but a stewaress only 2 pounds 10 shillings.

On this jouney, the First Officer was Richard Owen born in Amlwch in Anglesey and the Captain was Captain H Campbell.

Original Documents, Source and Citations here

Census 19011901Johannes ("John English") English Id #63 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at 24 Vienna Street, Everton, Liverpool; He was a ship's baker and listed at home on Census night 1901.
Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

Original Documents, Source and Citations here2
Census 19211921Johannes ("John English") English Id #63 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1921 at West Derby Union Infirmary; I think I found him here, noted as an "Out of Work" seaman, Code 735/8 =


Persons employed in transport & communication - water transport workers • Petty officers, seamen & deck hands

Remaining a mystery is the notation "C P R" written by the recorder - what does that mean unless it is a medical term.

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
  • Last Edited: 5 December 2022 13:17:03

Citations

  1. [S5940] Irish Catholic Registers 1655-1915
  2. [S5972]

Biography

Frances English

F, #64, Deceased, b. 30 January 1875, d. 15 January 1959

Person Exhibits

Frances English circa 1937
  • Consanguinity: Grandmother of Private

Parents

Family

Family: Alfred Herbert Roby (b. 23 February 1873, d. 23 May 1955)

Main Events

  • Name: Frances English was also known as Frances Roby.
  • Biography: . I have the original funeral documentation supplied by the undertakers, Thompsons ( Rimmers ) Ltd, 299 Kensington, Liverpool 7.
  • Birth: She was born on 30 January 1875 in 22 Barmouth Street, St. Martin, Liverpool, England, (. There is no doubt that Frances is the daughter of Joannes English and Brigida Power - I say this because Frances' parents were Roman Catholics and consequently quite difficult to trace back through the records. I knew her well and never knew she had been brought up in the RC church.)
  • Baptism: She was christened on 9 February 1875 in St. Albans RC Church, Liverpool. I note that she is referred to as "Francesca English".
  • Confirmation: She was confirmed on 9 December 1886 in Our Lady of Immaculate Conception.
  • Occupation: In 1901 Frances English was a book binder in Liverpool.
  • Residence: In 1905 Frances English lived in 74 Butler St, West Derby.
  • Marriage:

    Frances English married Alfred Herbert Roby on 4 February 1905 in The Registry Office, West Derby. (. (Reference :- REG_WD/216/132)

    Reference 8b 727 Liverpool.

    I wonder whether the marriege took place in the Registry Office because Alfred was a Protestant and Frances a Roman Catholic. I have no knowledge of the reason ... but I note that young Alfred was born 18 months later, so we can rule that one out.
    .)
  • Her mother Brigida ("Bridget Power") Power died about May 1905 in Liverpool, England.
  • Her son Alfred Roby was born on 25 August 1906.
  • Her daughter Irene Nettacress Roby was born on 5 January 1913 in Fairfield, Liverpool, England.
  • Her father Johannes ("John English") English died in 1926 in Liverpool, England.
  • Her husband Alfred Herbert Roby died on 23 May 1955 in 18 Elm Vale, Fairfield, Liverpool, England.
  • Death: Frances English died of Bronchial Pneumonia on 15 January 1959 at 112 Bowring Park Avenue in Bowring Park, Liverpool, England, (. The entry in the registry says that she was 83 at time of death, making her birthdate circa 1876.).
  • Cremation: Following her death, her remains were cremated on 19 January 1959 at the Crematorium in Anfield, Liverpool. (. I have the original funeral documentation supplied by the undertakers, Thompsons ( Rimmers ) Ltd, 299 Kensington, Liverpool 7.)
    .

Census

Census 18811881Frances English Id #64 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1881 at 3 Crouch Street, St. Domingo Close, Everton; Witness Role: Daughter

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 19011901Frances English Id #64 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at 34 Rose Place, Everton; In the 1901 Census, she is listed as "Fannie English", a 26 year old book binder, and a visitor in the home of the Harvey family, along with other servants and visitors including Mary Power, unmarried aged 56, recorded as working presumable in this home, as a servent and housekeeper. She may be a sister of Brigida Power (c.1852-1905), and born in Ireland - or more likely, Mary Power [23581], daughter of Thomas Power and Ellena O'Brien.

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 19111911Frances English Id #64 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at 38 Whitcroft Road, Liverpool; Witness Role: Wife

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 192119 June 1921Frances English Id #64 (Principal) was at home on Census night 19 June 1921 at Liverpool; Principal Role

Principal Role
Witness Role: wife

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census From 1935 to 1936Frances English Id #64 (Principal) was at home on Census night from 1935 to 1936 at Fairfield, Liverpool; Interestingly, Harold Snelson was living a few hundred yards or so away from the Roby family, in 5 Elstree Street from Irene Roby at 18 Elm Vale. We know they both went to St Johns Church and played badminton together. So, almost boy and girl next door.
Witness Role: resident

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Biography

John Roby

M, #65, Deceased, b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895
  • Consanguinity: Great-grandfather of Private

Parents

  • Father: William Roby (b. 1 May 1809, d. October 1849)
  • Mother: Ann Foster (b. about 1814, d. about 1 March 1891)

Family

Family: Ellen Edwardson (b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908)

Main Events

  • Birth: John Roby was born about January 1836 in Prescot, England.
  • Christening: He was christened on 31 January 1836 in St Mary the Virgin, Prescot. Baptism: 31 Jan 1836 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
    John Roby - Son of William Roby & Ann
    Abode: Prescot
    Occupation: File Cutter
    Baptised by: Geo. Slade
    Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1842, Page 32, Entry 249.
  • His father William Roby died in October 1849 in Prescot, England.
  • Occupation: In 1851 John Roby was a watch pinion maker.
  • Occupation: In 1861 John Roby was a watch pinion maker - incidentally, at this time he was living with his mother Ann and her second husband, John Abbott, a watch balance maker in Prescott at age 25y.
  • His daughter Mary Ellen Roby was born in 1861 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.
  • Marriage:

    John Roby married Ellen Edwardson about August 1863 in Prescot. (. Ref 8b 559 : This reference is incorrect as it leads to the marriage of an Ellen Edwardson in 1855, but not to John Roby. I am not sure where this old reference comes from.

    I have not been able to find any evodence of a marriage between this John Roby and Ellen Edwardson.

    The evidence is that the birth documentstion and baptisms of their children say that the child's parents are John & Ellen Roby and that the mother's maiden name is Edwardson..)
  • His son John J Thomas Roby was born on 25 December 1864 in Sutton, Lancashire, England.
  • His daughter Ann "Annie" Roby was born on 2 May 1866 in Prescot, England.
  • His son William Roby was born on 20 September 1868 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.
  • His son Fred Forster Roby was born on 20 October 1870 in Prescot, England.
  • Occupation: About 1871 John Roby was a Master Watchmaker according to Alfred Herbert Roby's birth certificate. Here is a picture of a watch made in Prescot - a more recent watch I think. I am indebted to Geoff Willis - this watch was built by his great grandfather Frank Willis [23537] - his father too was a watchmaker, that's great-great grandfather Thomas Wiilis [23538].
  • Residence: In 1873 John Roby lived in Knowsley, Lancashire.
  • His daughter Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley.
  • His son Alfred Herbert Roby was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley, Liverpool, England.
  • His son John J Thomas Roby died on 10 February 1875.
  • His son Albert Ernest Roby was born on 14 August 1875 in Prescot.
  • His daughter Evelyn Beatrice Roby was born on 30 July 1879 in Prescot.
  • Occupation: In 1881 John Roby was a watch pinion maker in 2 East View, Prescot.
  • His mother Ann Foster died about 1 March 1891.
  • Occupation: On 5 April 1891 John Roby was a watch pinion maker in West Derby, Liverpool.1
  • Biography: . Undertakers W&D Busby Ltd of 66 Anne St Liverpool carried out the necessary business regarding the burial of John Roby. I have their original invoice.

    In the 1851 Census, at the age of 17 years, John is listed as an Omnibus Guard.

    John Roby was recorded as having been a watch maker (deceased) on his son Alfred Herbert Roby's marriage certificate.
  • Death: He died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England, (at age 61y) (. He died of cerebral softening and exhaustion).2
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried on 22 February 1895 in Grave 407 S7, West Derby Cemetery, in Liverpool. (. The entry in the cemetery records says that he was a 61 year old watchmaker)
    .3
  • His wife Ellen Edwardson died on 28 January 1908 in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England.

Census

Census 18416 June 1841John Roby Id #65 (Principal) was at home on Census night 6 June 1841 at Parrs Square, Prescot, Lancashire; at this stage, Ellen is a mystery, I don't know who she is. I guess she may even be William Roby's mother.
Witness Role: Son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 185130 March 1851John Roby Id #65 (Principal) was at home on Census night 30 March 1851 at Parr's Square, Prescot; Ann is a widow in 1851 and shown as a laundry woman
Witness Role: Son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18611861John Roby Id #65 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1861 at Fazackerly Street, Prescot; John and his brother William were living with their mother Ann [Foster] aged 47, and their step father John Abbott
Witness Role: Step-Son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18712 April 1871John Roby Id #65 (Principal) was at home on Census night 2 April 1871 at Dogkennel House, Prescot; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

Original Documents, Source and Citations here4
Census 18813 April 1881John Roby Id #65 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at 2 East View, Prescot, Lancashire; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18915 April 1891John Roby Id #65 (Principal) was at home on Census night 5 April 1891 at West Derby, Liverpool

Original Documents, Source and Citations here1
  • Last Edited: 18 June 2023 22:28:51

Citations

  1. [S5993] Census 1891 West Derby, Liverpool RG12
  2. [S462] Death Certificate of John Roby ( 1805 ), Source Element: R3-2894
  3. [S2] Letter from Liverpool Record Office dated 28 July 1989 Interment Orders
  4. [S5973] Census 1871 Lancashire John Roby a 35

Biography

Ellen Edwardson1

F, #66, Deceased, b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908
  • Consanguinity: Great-grandmother of Private

Parents

Family

Family: John Roby (b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895)

Main Events

  • Name: Ellen Edwardson was also known as Ellen Roby.
  • Residence: Ellen Edwardson lived. Letter from Liverpool Record Office dated 28 July 1989 Interment Orders

    9350
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    Feb 22 1895 John Roby 61 Years Watchmaker 72 Leopold Road Purchaser Mrs. Ellen Roby, Widow, same address

    22370
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    March 26 1908 Fred Foster Roby 33 Years Barman 11 Jubilee drive

    27932
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    Feb 1 1908 Ellen Roby 72 Years 42 West Derby Street

    69630
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    May 26 1955 Alfred Herbert Roby 82 Years 18 Elm Vale [:CR:].
  • Birth: She was born on 6 June 1836 in Prescot, England.2
  • Baptism: She was christened on 30 June 1836 in Ebenezer Chapel, New Road, Prescot. This is an Independent Church. The records read


    First name(s) • Ellen
    Father's first name(s) • Thomas
    Last name • Edwardson
    Father's last name • Edwardson
    Sex • Female
    Mother's first name(s) • Ann
    Birth year • 1836
    Mother's last name • Critchley
    Baptism year • 1836
    Record set • England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
    Baptism date • 30 Jun 1836
    Category • Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Place • Prescot
    Subcategory • Parish Baptisms
    County • Lancashire
    Collections from • England, Great Britain.
  • Residence: In 1851 Ellen Edwardson lived in New Road, Prescott. and described as a watchmaker's daughter.3
  • Occupation: In 1861 Ellen Edwardson was an as a house servant (and was married) in Prescot, Lancashire, England. Ellen is described on the night of the 1861 Census, as a married woman aged 24, occupation "house servant" in the home of Richard Dolke, watchmaker, and his wife Elizabeth Dolke. I believe at this time, she would be very pregnat with Mary Ellen Roby arriving before 30th June 1861. Notably, husband John Roby is still at the home of his mother Ann who has remarried, brother William Roby, half brother William Alfred Abbott - and step father John Abbott.

    Interestingly, the record says that John Roby is "unmarried" - whereas across town, Ellen who is very pregnant calls herself Ellen Roby and it is recorded as a "married".

    I am beginning to wonder whether they were ever married.
  • Her daughter Mary Ellen Roby was born in 1861 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.
  • Marriage:

    Ellen Edwardson married John Roby about August 1863 in Prescot. (. Ref 8b 559 : This reference is incorrect as it leads to the marriage of an Ellen Edwardson in 1855, but not to John Roby. I am not sure where this old reference comes from.

    I have not been able to find any evodence of a marriage between this John Roby and Ellen Edwardson.

    The evidence is that the birth documentstion and baptisms of their children say that the child's parents are John & Ellen Roby and that the mother's maiden name is Edwardson..)
  • Her son John J Thomas Roby was born on 25 December 1864 in Sutton, Lancashire, England.
  • Her daughter Ann "Annie" Roby was born on 2 May 1866 in Prescot, England.
  • Her son William Roby was born on 20 September 1868 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.
  • Her son Fred Forster Roby was born on 20 October 1870 in Prescot, England.
  • Her son Alfred Herbert Roby was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley, Liverpool, England.
  • Her daughter Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley.
  • Her son John J Thomas Roby died on 10 February 1875.
  • Her son Albert Ernest Roby was born on 14 August 1875 in Prescot.
  • Her daughter Evelyn Beatrice Roby was born on 30 July 1879 in Prescot.
  • Her father Thomas Edwardson died on 27 April 1882.
  • Occupation: On 5 April 1891 Ellen Edwardson was an as a house servant (and was married) in West Derby, Liverpool.4
  • Her husband John Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England.
  • Her mother Ann Critchley died in January 1897 in England.
  • Her son Fred Forster Roby died on 23 March 1904.
  • Residence: Before 1908 Ellen Edwardson lived in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool.5
  • Death: She died on 28 January 1908 in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England.6
  • Buried: Following her death, her remains were buried on 1 February 1908 in Section 7 Grave 407 in West Derby Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire. (. aged 72)
    .7

Census

Census 18411841Ellen Edwardson Id #66 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1841 at New Road, Prescot; Witness Role: Daughter

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Census 18511851Ellen Edwardson Id #66 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1851 at New Road, Prescot; Witness Role: Daughter

Original Documents, Source and Citations here8
Census 18712 April 1871Ellen Edwardson Id #66 (Principal) was at home on Census night 2 April 1871 at Dogkennel House, Prescot; Witness Role: Wife

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Census 18813 April 1881Ellen Edwardson Id #66 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at 2 East View, Prescot, Lancashire; Witness Role: Wife

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Census 18915 April 1891Ellen Edwardson Id #66 (Principal) was at home on Census night 5 April 1891 at West Derby, Liverpool

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Census 19011901Ellen Edwardson Id #66 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at 281 Upper Parliament Street, West Derby; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

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  • Last Edited: 19 June 2023 17:20:06

Citations

  1. [S464] Birth Certificate of Alfred Herbert Roby ( 1873 ), Source Element: R3-2897
  2. [S5538] David Pitt's Tree
  3. [S5537] Census 1851 Prescott
  4. [S5993] Census 1891 West Derby, Liverpool RG12
  5. [S480] Burial Authority for Ellen Roby ( Nee Edwardson ) 1908, Source Element: R3-2953
  6. [S607] Death Certificate of Ellen Roby 1908, Source Element: R3-5355
  7. [S2] Letter from Liverpool Record Office dated 28 July 1989 Interment Orders
  8. [S5630] Census 1851 Lancashire Thomas Edwardson a.40, Census Type: Film
    Census Place: Prescot
  9. [S5973] Census 1871 Lancashire John Roby a 35

Biography

Alfred Herbert Roby1

M, #67, Deceased, b. 23 February 1873, d. 23 May 1955

Person Exhibits

Alfred Herbert Roby in 1939
  • Consanguinity: Grandfather of Private

Parents

  • Father: John Roby (b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895)
  • Mother: Ellen Edwardson (b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908)

Family

Family: Frances English (b. 30 January 1875, d. 15 January 1959)

Main Events

  • Biography: . I have his Baptism certificate. I also have a copy of their marriage certificate on which Alfred Herbert Roby aged 31 is described as a Collector. They were married at the West Derby Registry Office.

    In 1938, he was living at 18 Elm Vale - and was described as "a weighman".

    As a reference on leaving military service, the Certificate reads "This soldier has done exceptionally good work as a stretcher bearer in the line : unfailing in his duty, he has borne hardships and fatigues that would have done credit to a much younger man. Honest, sober, trustworthy, industrious, clean, intelligent."

    Title
    Pte Alfred Herbert Roby (medals; letter; certificate)
    Who?
    Private Alfred Herbert Roby, 266253, Somerset Light Infantry.
    Item(s)
    Military Medal, British War and Victory Medals, letter from C.O. regarding the award of the Military Medal, and Certificate of Employment During the War.
    Story
    Alfred Herbert Roby, born in February 1873 in Knowsley, Lancashire, served with the 11th Battalion of the Somerset Light Infantry late on in the First World War from May 1918 until March 1919.

    Having originally enlisted in September, 1915, he was primarily employed as a stretcher bearer with the 11th Somerset Light Infantry and was awarded the Military Medal in March 1919 for his service in this role.
    When?
    May - November 1918
    Where?
    The Somme region of France, including the Battle of Albert in August 1918.
    Contributor
    Denis Roby
    Collection Day
    Stourport-on-Severn Library, 10th November, 2018.
    Item sets
    Stourport Library, Stourport-on-Severn (10/11/2018)
    LWF.
  • Birth: Alfred Herbert Roby was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley, Liverpool, England, (. He was a twin - his sister Alice Jane Roby was his twin sister.)2
  • Christening: He was christened on 16 April 1873 in St. Mary's, Prescot. Baptism: 16 Apr 1873 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
    Alfred Herbert Roby - [Child] of John Roby & Ellen
    Abode: Knowsley
    Occupation: Watch-Maker
    Baptised by: F. de L. White Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1870 - 1879, Page 83, Entry 658.
  • Occupation: In 1891 Alfred Herbert Roby was a pawn broker's apprentice in 81 Old Chester Road, Birkenhead.
  • His father John Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England.
  • Occupation: In 1901 Alfred Herbert Roby was a bamboo worker in 281 Upper Parliament Street, West Derby, Liverpool.
  • Residence: In 1905 Alfred Herbert Roby lived in 125 Needham Rd, West Derby.
  • Occupation: In February 1905 Alfred Herbert Roby was a "a collector" according to the marriage certificate.
  • Marriage:

    Alfred Herbert Roby married Frances English on 4 February 1905 in The Registry Office, West Derby. (. (Reference :- REG_WD/216/132)

    Reference 8b 727 Liverpool.

    I wonder whether the marriege took place in the Registry Office because Alfred was a Protestant and Frances a Roman Catholic. I have no knowledge of the reason ... but I note that young Alfred was born 18 months later, so we can rule that one out.
    .)
  • His son Alfred Roby was born on 25 August 1906.
  • Occupation: On 24 October 1906 Alfred Herbert Roby was an Insurance Agent.
  • His mother Ellen Edwardson died on 28 January 1908 in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England.
  • Occupation: About 1913 Alfred Herbert Roby was a grain checker.
  • His daughter Irene Nettacress Roby was born on 5 January 1913 in Fairfield, Liverpool, England.
  • Milit-Beg: He joined the Forces in 1914. as a Private in the Somerset Light Infantry (Reg # 266523.)
  • Award: He experienced Award between 1914 and 1918.3
  • Misc: He experienced Misc in August 1918 in Albert, France.
  • Milit-End: The military career of Alfred Herbert Roby ended on 23 March 1919. Private Roby - #266523 - Disembodiment - discharged from The Somerset Regiment L 9.

    In the military sense disembodiment usually means separation of the body of troops as in disbanding rather than the philosophical sense of separation of
    the soul from the body.

    During wars, regiments of the British Army generally raise extra battalions above the usual one or two in peacetime. The battalion is the fighting unit of infantry, commanded by a Lieutenant Colonel and consisting of 600 or more men. In WW1 many regiments had 10 or more battalions. It is easy to understand that a good deal of time was needed to reduce the army to peacetime strength.

    The four options mean something like this

    Discharge - Discharge of the individual soldier.
    Transfer to the Reserve - This speaks for itself.
    Disembodiment - Separation of the man from the battalion
    Demobilisation - Removal of the battalion from the active list and disbanding.

    However, I note that he was discharged on medical grounds, with a rupture retaine by a truss and a condition described as "chrondroma rib", 20%.4
  • Occupation: In 1921 Alfred Herbert Roby was a Grain Porter in Coburg Dock, Liverpool, at age 48y.
  • Occupation: In 1939 Alfred Herbert Roby was a grain porter in Liverpool 16.5
  • Occupation: On 29 September 1939 Alfred Herbert Roby was a grain porter in Huyton-with-Roby, Liverpool 16.6
  • Death: He died on 23 May 1955 in 18 Elm Vale, Fairfield, Liverpool, England.7
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried on 26 May 1955 in Grave 407 S7 in West Derby Cemetery, in Liverpool.
    .8
  • His wife Frances English died on 15 January 1959 in Bowring Park, Liverpool, England.

Census

Note Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night;
Alfred Herbert Roby and his sister Alice Jane Roby were twins and were baptised together 0n 16th April in 1873. Baptised at the same time was Fred Foster Roby although he was born earlier in 1870. • The 11th Battalion was formed January 1917 by redesignation of 86th Provisional Battalion, TF. To France May 1918 as part of 59th (2nd North Midland) Division


Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 18813 April 1881Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at 2 East View, Prescot, Lancashire; Witness Role: Son

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Census 18911891Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1891 at 81 Old Chester Road, Tranmere, Birkenhead, Cheshire; Mary Bentley is a 52 year old lady running a pawn broking buisiness. Alfred is descibed as a pawnboker's apprentice aged 18 presumable living there - as this is "over the water" from Liverpool and that would mean a ferry trip every day.
Principal Role
Witness Role: Member of Household

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Census 19011901Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at 281 Upper Parliament Street, West Derby; Witness Role: son
bamboo worker

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Census 19111911Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at 38 Whitcroft Road, Liverpool; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

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Census 192119 June 1921Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 19 June 1921 at Liverpool; Witness Role: Head of Household

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Census From 1935 to 1936Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night from 1935 to 1936 at Fairfield, Liverpool; Interestingly, Harold Snelson was living a few hundred yards or so away from the Roby family, in 5 Elstree Street from Irene Roby at 18 Elm Vale. We know they both went to St Johns Church and played badminton together. So, almost boy and girl next door.
Principal Role

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Census 19391939Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1939 at Huyton With Roby, Liverpool 16; Source 5994 Census 1939 Huyton With Roby, Liverpool 16 RG101 (RG101/4791C/009/27 Letter Code: NVGO), (RG101).
Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

Witness Role: father-in-law

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Census 193929 September 1939Alfred Herbert Roby Id #67 (Principal) was at home on Census night 29 September 1939 at Huyton With Roby, Liverpool 16

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Citations

  1. [S464] Birth Certificate of Alfred Herbert Roby ( 1873 ), Source Element: R3-2897
  2. [S5531] Birth Certificate Alfred Herbert Roby
  3. [S5947] Medals - Alfred Herbert Roby
  4. [S5933] British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
  5. [S5946] National Archives Register 1939
  6. [S5994] Census 1939 Huyton With Roby, Liverpool 16 RG101 (RG101/4791C/009/27 Letter Code: NVGO)
  7. [S358] Letter from Liverpool Record Office dated 28 July 1989 Interment Orders
    9350 ----
    Feb 22 1895 John Roby 61 Years Watchmaker 72 Leopold Road Purchaser Mrs. Ellen Roby, Widow, same address
    22370 -----
    March 26 1908 Fred Foster Roby 33 Years Barman 11 Jubilee drive
    27932
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    Feb 1 1908 Ellen Roby 72 Years 42 West Derby Street
    69630 -----
    May 26 1955 Alfred Herbert Roby 82 Years 18 Elm Vale, Source Element: R3-2213
  8. [S2] Letter from Liverpool Record Office dated 28 July 1989 Interment Orders

Biography

Alfred Roby

M, #68, Deceased, b. 25 August 1906, d. 17 February 1984

Parents

Family

Family: Patricia Mary Leeson (b. 16 March 1915, d. 30 March 1979)

Main Events

  • Biography: . Uncle Alf was a favourite of mine. He saw me as a "Roby" rather than a "Snelson", most likely because we always got on very well, in fact for some unkown reason, I think he had a soft spot for me. Must have been the nose !

    I think at one time, he was working with Lobitos, an American oil company. Later, he retired; I think he might have taken an early shower and was perhaps retrenched. In any case, he opened or bought a sweet shop somewhere in the Wirral - perhaps near Prenton where he lived.

    He was a keen golfer and I am sure that he followed rugby union and cricket quite closely. It's a pity he's still not around, because I am sure he would have enjoyed a few digs about the the shabby state of English cricket and rugby, compared to the Australian !

    It was Uncle Alf who rang me in New Zealand in 1975, and told me of the death of my father. I am sure that was not an easy thing to do, but I will always remember his words.

    He didn't mind a pint or two, and was always good company - I liked him very much, and was very sorry to hear that he died shortly after I saw him in 1981.

    He had not been well for some time.
  • Occupation: Alfred Roby was an Oil Sales Representative.
  • Birth: He was born on 25 August 1906.
  • Baptism: He was christened on 24 October 1906 in Christ Church, Kensington, Liverpool 6.
  • Marriage:

    Alfred Roby married Patricia Mary Leeson on 26 July 1941 in the local parish church, Ovendon, Halifax.
  • Residence: In 1947 Alfred Roby lived in 4a Beech Mount, Fairfield, Kensington, Liverpool.
  • Residence: He was a Household Head at Residence of Alfred Roby in 1951 in Salcombe Drive, Hunts Cross, Liverpool.
  • His father Alfred Herbert Roby died on 23 May 1955 in 18 Elm Vale, Fairfield, Liverpool, England.
  • His mother Frances English died on 15 January 1959 in Bowring Park, Liverpool, England.
  • Residence: In 1975 Alfred Roby lived in 18 Cambridge Road, Prenton, Wirral, Cheshire.
  • His wife Patricia Mary Leeson died on 30 March 1979.
  • Residence: In 1984 Alfred Roby lived at 6 Parkland Court in Arrowe Park, Birkenhead.
  • Death: He died on 17 February 1984.
  • Probate: He from TMG so needs special text here - perhaps get it from the other Probate Fact below Probate on 12 April 1984.

Census

Census 19111911Alfred Roby Id #68 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at 38 Whitcroft Road, Liverpool; Witness Role: Son

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Census 192119 June 1921Alfred Roby Id #68 (Principal) was at home on Census night 19 June 1921 at Liverpool; Witness Role: son

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census From 1935 to 1936Alfred Roby Id #68 (Principal) was at home on Census night from 1935 to 1936 at Fairfield, Liverpool; Interestingly, Harold Snelson was living a few hundred yards or so away from the Roby family, in 5 Elstree Street from Irene Roby at 18 Elm Vale. We know they both went to St Johns Church and played badminton together. So, almost boy and girl next door.
Witness Role: resident

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  • Last Edited: 9 June 2023 13:34:58

Biography

Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby1

F, #69, Deceased, b. 23 February 1873, d. April 1951
  • Consanguinity: Great-aunt of Private

Parents

  • Father: John Roby (b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895)
  • Mother: Ellen Edwardson (b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908)

Family

Family: Samuel Croft Alletson (b. 1869, d. 1963)

Main Events

  • Name: Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby was also known as Jennie ("possibly Alice Jane") Alletson.
  • Birth: She was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley.2,3
  • Christening: She was christened on 16 April 1873 in St. Mary's, Prescot.
  • Marriage:

    Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby married Samuel Croft Alletson on 20 August 1893 in St John the Divine, Fairfield, Liverpool. (. I also have a note about them marrying in Kensington, Liverpool on 4th January 1984, but I am unsure about the source.)
  • Her father John Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England.
  • Her son Aubrey Fancis Alletson was born in June 1896.
  • Her son Aubrey Fancis Alletson died in September 1898 in Derby, England.
  • Her son William Croft Alletson was born in 1899.
  • Her daughter Gladys Evelyn Alletson was born in 1899.
  • Her daughter Phyllis Alletson was born on 20 September 1899 in Derby, England.
  • Her son Samuel Arthur Alletson was born about 1907.
  • Her mother Ellen Edwardson died on 28 January 1908 in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England.
  • Her son William Croft Alletson died on 29 January 1927.
  • Death: Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby died in April 1951 in Shardlow, Derbyshire.
  • Her husband Samuel Croft Alletson died in 1963 in Shardlow, Debyshire.

Census

Note Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby Id #69 (Principal) was at home on Census night; She was a twin of my grandfather, Alfred Herbert Roby.

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Census 18813 April 1881Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby Id #69 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at 2 East View, Prescot, Lancashire; Witness Role: Daughter

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Census 18915 April 1891Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby Id #69 (Principal) was at home on Census night 5 April 1891 at West Derby, Liverpool

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Census 19011901Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby Id #69 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at St Violets, Derby, Derbyshire; Principal Role

Principal Role
Witness Role: wife

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Census 19111911Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby Id #69 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at Derby, England; Principal Role

Principal Role
Witness Role: wife

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  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Citations

  1. [S465] Birth Certificate of Alice Jane Roby ( 1873 ), Source Element: R3-2899
  2. [S226] St. Catherine's House Indexes
  3. [S5532] Alice Jane Roby's Birth Certificate
  4. [S5993] Census 1891 West Derby, Liverpool RG12

Biography

Samuel Croft Alletson

M, #70, Deceased, b. 1869, d. 1963

Family

Family: Alice Jane ("Jennie") "Jenny" Roby (b. 23 February 1873, d. April 1951)

Main Events

Census

Census 19011901Samuel Croft Alletson Id #70 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at St Violets, Derby, Derbyshire; Witness Role: Head of Household

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Census 19111911Samuel Croft Alletson Id #70 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at Derby, England; Witness Role: Head of Household

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  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Biography

Evelyn Beatrice Roby

F, #71, Deceased, b. 30 July 1879
  • Consanguinity: Great-aunt of Private

Parents

  • Father: John Roby (b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895)
  • Mother: Ellen Edwardson (b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908)

Family

Family: Charles Ernest Hartley (b. about 1879, d. between January 1946 and March 1946)

Main Events

  • Name: Evelyn Beatrice Roby was also known as Evelyn Beatrice Hartley.
  • Birth: She was born on 30 July 1879 in Prescot.
  • Christening: She was christened on 3 January 1883 in Prescot.
  • Her father John Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England.
  • Marriage:

    Evelyn Beatrice Roby married Charles Ernest Hartley on 13 November 1907 in Christ Church, Kensington, Liverpool. The marriage was attended by William Roby. (. NB The banns say his father was actually Benjamin Hartley, a commercial traveller. Charles says he is working as a clerk.)
  • Her mother Ellen Edwardson died on 28 January 1908 in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England.
  • Biography: . Charles and Evelyn made at least 4 separate voyages to West Africa and back to Liverpool between 1922 and 1930.
  • Residence: In 1945 Evelyn Beatrice Roby lived in 29 Millersdale Road, Mossley Hill, Wavertree, Liverpool.
  • Her husband Charles Ernest Hartley died between January 1946 and March 1946 in North Liverpool.
  • Biography: . Charles Ernest Hartley and Evelyn Beatrice Roby have proved to be a difficult couple to chase. It seems that Charles worked for Elder Dempster and did quite a lot of travelling, sometimes taking Evelyn with him. I can find no trace of any children nor where they retired to.

Census

Census 18813 April 1881Evelyn Beatrice Roby Id #71 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at 2 East View, Prescot, Lancashire; Witness Role: Daughter

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Census 18915 April 1891Evelyn Beatrice Roby Id #71 (Principal) was at home on Census night 5 April 1891 at West Derby, Liverpool

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Census 19011901Evelyn Beatrice Roby Id #71 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at 281 Upper Parliament Street, West Derby; Witness Role: daughter

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Census 19111911Evelyn Beatrice Roby Id #71 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at Toxteth Park, Liverpool; Witness Role: daughter-in-law

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  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Citations

  1. [S5993] Census 1891 West Derby, Liverpool RG12

Biography

William Roby

M, #72, Deceased, b. 20 September 1868, d. 2 April 1911
  • Consanguinity: Great-uncle of Private

Parents

  • Father: John Roby (b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895)
  • Mother: Ellen Edwardson (b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908)

Family

Family: Maud Unknown

Main Events

  • Biography: . William may have married Maud Unknown and emigrated to Winnipeg, Canada. There could be a connection here with Mr J. Stehr, 2201 Orient Park Drive, Gloucester, Ontario.
  • Birth: William Roby was born on 20 September 1868 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.
  • Baptism: He was christened on 29 November 1868 in Prescot.
  • His father John Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England.
  • Occupation: In 1901 William Roby was a commercial traveller in 281 Upper Parliament Street, West Derby.
  • Witness: He witnessed the wedding of Charles Ernest Hartley and Evelyn Beatrice Roby on 13 November 1907 in Christ Church, Kensington, Liverpool.
  • His mother Ellen Edwardson died on 28 January 1908 in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England.
  • Death: William Roby died on 2 April 1911 in West Derby, Liverpool, England.

Census

Census 18711871William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1871 at Dogkennel House, Prescott

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Census 18712 April 1871William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 2 April 1871 at Dogkennel House, Prescot; Witness Role: Son

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Census 18813 April 1881William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at 2 East View, Prescot, Lancashire; Witness Role: Son

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Census 19011901William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at Edge Hill, Liverpool

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Census 19011901William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at 281 Upper Parliament Street, West Derby; Witness Role: son
commercial traveller

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Census 19111911William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at 38 Whitcroft Road, Liverpool; He was single, and working as a commercial traveller at the time of the Census.

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Census 19111911William Roby Id #72 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at 38 Whitcroft Road, Liverpool; Witness Role: Brother

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  • Last Edited: 18 January 2023 23:23:28

Citations

  1. [S5973] Census 1871 Lancashire John Roby a 35

Biography

Maud Unknown

F, #73, Deceased

Family

Family: William Roby (b. 20 September 1868, d. 2 April 1911)

Main Events

  • Name: Maud Unknown was also known as Maud Roby.
  • Her partner William Roby died on 2 April 1911 in West Derby, Liverpool, England.
  • Last Edited: 3 December 2022 10:10:49

Biography

Robin Edward Snelson

M, #75, Deceased, b. 1938, d. 13 December 2000
  • Consanguinity: 4th cousin of Private

Parents

Family

Main Events

  • Associatn: Robin Edward Snelson experienced Associatn.
  • Birth: He was born in 1938.
  • His father Robert Woolman Snelson died in 1976.
  • His mother Frances Mary Harris died in 1997.
  • Death: Robin Edward Snelson died on 13 December 2000.1,2
  • Buried: Following his death, his remains were buried on 20 December 2000 in Epsom.
    .3
  • Last Edited: 3 December 2022 10:10:49

Citations

  1. [S5417] Oxfordshire Parish Register - Deddington, Oxfordshire Parish Register - Deddington, Memo: Entry ID: Book
  2. [S5423] Don Knibbs, Don Knibbs FTM File, Memo: Entry ID: Other
  3. [S5449] Daily Telegraph, Item Info: Death Notices

Biography